08:01:58 From Brad Turberville To Everyone : I need her energy this morning Steve
08:02:11 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : she is stinkin adorable!
08:02:20 From Brad Turberville To Everyone : Agreed Laura
08:02:27 From Dale Deiter - Prescott National Forest To Everyone : she's a keeper!
08:02:36 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : Happy Friday everyone
08:03:11 From Steve Hattenbach To Everyone : Brad I can drop her off with you if you want,
08:04:02 From Dale Deiter - Prescott National Forest To Everyone : as acting RF you could have authorized more Fridays... : )
08:04:37 From Kim Giang To Everyone : TGIF!
08:05:52 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : I have two brain cells left that I saved just for today
08:06:14 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : Most excellent Laura Jo!
08:07:20 From Elaine Kohrman, USDA Forest Service To Everyone : thanks for drafting someone for us!
08:07:36 From Shayne Martin To Everyone : I trust the expert
08:08:32 From Dale Deiter - Prescott National Forest To Everyone : ditto Shayne
08:09:12 From Erin Swiader To Everyone : keep going!
08:11:19 From Rita Skinner To Everyone : i like essential and continuous legacy
08:14:05 From Shayne Martin To Everyone : I like it.
08:16:45 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : resilient nature - like that - feels like we care for all living things
08:17:24 From Rita Skinner To Everyone : would use and enjoyment be captured in our belief of multiple uses
08:17:33 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : balance multiple uses = everything we do - recreation is in there
08:17:48 From Tom Torres To Everyone : i like the inclusion of "balance". it speaks to our multi use work   (...and the sometimes  inherent conflict)
08:17:57 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : good point, Sandy!
08:18:44 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : I also like the thought of add Our Role: Public's steward of the Southwestern Region, then Our Mission: We engage communities in the work . . . 
08:18:45 From Adam Bromley To Everyone : There is in fact inherent conflict in multiple use is our role to not be in the middle but to get those conflicting uses talking together?
08:18:49 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : easy to learn and remember
08:18:59 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : I personally miss the "traditional knowledge" because I think that really honors our history, but we hit it elsewhere with continuous legacy
08:19:12 From Liv Fetterman To Everyone : I agree, Heather.
08:19:54 From Dale Deiter - Prescott National Forest To Everyone : I like that Elaine
08:19:56 From Shayne Martin To Everyone : well put.
08:19:57 From Ericka Luna To Everyone : I agree
08:20:07 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Totally agree, Elaine. I think a few words could be changed to highlight our identity, but everything is there otherwise
08:20:26 From Monica Martinez To Everyone : I love this!  It captures so many different aspects of who we are as the Forest Service and what we believe in.
08:20:32 From Kim Giang To Everyone : I like "resilient" it speaks to the ability to recover and adjust with time and challanges
08:20:51 From Rita Skinner To Everyone : If we include an identify piece above this, I think it will capture a lot of what folks are asking for
08:20:56 From Elaine Kohrman, USDA Forest Service To Everyone : right on might be the thing to include to capture the uniqueness thanks
08:21:09 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Agree Rita!
08:21:28 From Shayne Martin To Everyone : don't throw the baby out with the bathwater ;)
08:21:56 From Rita Skinner To Everyone : I'm not tired of the 3Rs.... just need to figure out where they belong
08:22:26 From Dale Deiter - Prescott National Forest To Everyone : i feel like the R33Rs are focus areas
08:24:02 From Dale Deiter - Prescott National Forest To Everyone : i definitely don't want to go back down the road of debating tundra, sky islands, etc, but i have a twitch of missing deserts
08:24:02 From Monica Martinez To Everyone : @Sandy - This is very powerful and meaningful to me.   I hope for others too.
08:24:12 From Brad Turberville To Everyone : I like it overall. I know one thing our group spoke about was about the power of our people and we are only as strong as our people.
08:24:35 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : TBH, it says all the right things but it’s not stirring my soul. unfortunately barely I have no suggestions right now that would change that for me.
08:24:54 From Brad Turberville To Everyone : I think that is the only small piece that seems to be missing for me.
08:25:15 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : and I don’t know how the word ‘barely’ got in there
08:26:04 From Kim Giang To Everyone : While we believe in all the beliefs, I think the last bullet re balance helps bring our role in G&A into it
08:26:08 From Dale Deiter - Prescott National Forest To Everyone : i agree it would help to see the trinity and other pieces all at once as you are suggesting
08:27:09 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : If I'm honest, I am feeling the same as Laura Jo. Having said that, I think it is a matter of changing a few words out to hit the heart
08:27:11 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : agree that adding the identity piece will help with the uniqueness thing
08:27:32 From Nancy Brunswick To Everyone : We had an interesting discussion in our group around the word sustain. There are two common meanings. "Sustain life" you have to have to continue to live. However, there is also a "status quo" sustain is just to keep it going, not necessarily reach toward an optimal state.
08:28:04 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Interesting, Nancy. Thanks for sharing!
08:28:20 From Tom Torres To Everyone : thx for sharing Nancy
08:28:35 From Ericka Luna To Everyone : Heather and LJ I am feeling the same way. i Think its a good start and i want to think about it more.
08:29:07 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Yes, I want to stew on it a bit, Ericka
08:29:17 From Danny Montoya To Everyone : I like what you have put together, Rebecca.  The varied comments you are seeing right now is part of the problem we have as an Agency.....we try to meet the needs of everyone, yet we know that is not possible
08:29:52 From Mike Martinez To Everyone : I like the "many voices" terminology
08:29:59 From Brad Turberville To Everyone : Great point Danny.
08:30:00 From Anthony Madrid To Everyone : I like the idea of getting some feedback from others, its been a long week and some fresh eyes would be good.
08:30:33 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : I personally like metaphors for grabbing people's heart. Our group talked about "walking the land together" vs stewardship or partnering
08:30:38 From Monica Martinez To Everyone : @Anthony - I agree.  That's a great idea.
08:31:00 From Travis Moseley To Everyone : "to the benefit of our grandchildren's grandchildren."  added to the mission may be a powerful addition.
08:31:05 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : Heather - so agree about the power of metaphor!!!
08:31:13 From Adam Bromley To Everyone : I like the "many voices" idea but I feel like it should be focused on getting those "many voices" talking to each other and not at just the forest service.
08:32:04 From Ericka Luna To Everyone : I like that too, Mike. our group talked a lot about many voices. @Heather "walking the land together" is powerful
08:32:05 From Rita Skinner To Everyone : Now I'm confused. I hear what Treva is saying, but I thought we wanted it to be R3 specific. 
08:32:40 From Neil Bosworth To Everyone : Agreed Rita...when we got too broad...we purposefully tried to make it specific to the region
08:33:21 From Kerwin Dewberry To Everyone : That is my understanding as well
08:33:33 From Anthony Madrid To Everyone : You are right Rita
08:34:35 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Great reminder on the purpose...thank you: to bring people to us
08:35:10 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : Well said Shayne
08:36:13 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : G&A is our foundation for success!!
08:36:53 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Thanks for being vulnerable and sharing that, Kim. It's good to know where your folks are at
08:37:37 From Kim Giang To Everyone : Thanks Heather for the support.
08:37:50 From Monica Martinez To Everyone : @Kim - Thank you.  You captured some of the principle thoughts resulting from our first time participating in this arena.
08:38:51 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : As I think about using this to inform our workforce planning, it worries me we haven't really built a context to keep us focused.  Maybe that's what's next?
08:39:26 From Kerwin Dewberry To Everyone : I agree LJ
08:39:43 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : If you don't have a strong foundation, everything else crumbles
08:41:10 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Here in the SW, we only have crawl spaces with spiders and other creepy things
08:41:18 From Elaine Kohrman, USDA Forest Service To Everyone : G&A and Contracting are so critical to serving and delivering on our relationships! that's the direct tie to our vision, beliefs, and mission. We couldn't deliver without you :)
08:41:28 From Monica Martinez To Everyone : I now realize, with an "eye opening" and "ah-ha" moment, that G&A is part of the "many voices" helping implement grants/agreements for these multiple use endeavors in service to a resilient nature.  And, G&A is a small drop of water in a huge ocean.
08:41:35 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Well said, Elaine!
08:42:30 From Tom Torres To Everyone : good catch Monica - this can apply to lots of other pieces of our workforce
08:42:56 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : I mean, well said, Monica!!
08:43:16 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : It's those foundational items that make or break our success.  We can talk a nice game about TIWWA, but if our foundation is cracked and we can't onboard effectively or get lincpasses in timely fashion, the rest doesn't matter much IMO.  We can't afford to focus on the 3Rs at the expense of our foundational pieces -
08:43:45 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Well said, LJ!
08:43:47 From Monica Martinez To Everyone : @Tom - very striking for me to realize...  we are all those wonderful "collective voices" with heart and passion towards a vision and goals, larger than just one person or one group....
08:43:50 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : not that they are zero sum of course
08:44:01 From Dale Deiter - Prescott National Forest To Everyone : This was very helpful Rebecca, i am glad that you took this first stab!
08:44:09 From Brad Turberville To Everyone : I'm good to move on
08:44:11 From Neil Bosworth To Everyone : Move forward
08:44:16 From Elaine Kohrman, USDA Forest Service To Everyone : ready!
08:44:23 From Tom Torres To Everyone : ready Sandy
08:45:10 From Kurt Davis To Everyone : absorbing it still
08:45:11 From Ericka Luna To Everyone : I cant do a thumbs up so you get a pinky :)
08:45:19 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Yes, a relief that you took a stab at it Rebecca. I was worried about how 40 people would whittle down 9 great ideas
08:47:39 From Kurt Davis To Everyone : I am not getting it but will listen in. interest on how this will be implemented and how the vision will work.
08:48:20 From Neil Bosworth To Everyone : No break!!!!
08:50:21 From Rebecca Reynolds To Ericka Luna(Privately) : Thanks Ericka! :)
09:06:52 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : well said, Robert!
09:18:46 From Rita Skinner To Everyone : confusion
09:18:48 From Elaine Kohrman, USDA Forest Service To Everyone : conflict!
09:18:53 From Liv Fetterman To Everyone : Underlap or overlap
09:19:09 From Travis Moseley To Everyone : redundancy too
09:21:19 From trevaslaughter To Everyone : basically working on the task list rather than focusing work on established priorities?
09:21:41 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : It's as if our budget represents the mission and POW becomes our focus areas (driven by budget)
09:22:20 From Robert Trujillo To Everyone : I was thinking the same thing Heather.  How much of what we do is driven by budget, rather than focus areas and prioities driving a budget allocation
09:22:27 From Rita Skinner To Everyone : examples help me...
09:23:16 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Robert...and I'm jumping ahead and thinking, what if our focus areas don't align with our current budgets?
09:25:49 From Robert Trujillo To Everyone : Sorry.  internet dropped me.   Whhat i wanted to say was I like the focus areas that encompass all because we are responsible for all.  Then in my mind objectives and priorities come under the focus areas and that is how we "focus" our work.  not the focus areas.
09:26:34 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : Does it have to only be 3?
09:26:40 From Mike Martinez To Everyone : so program areas?
09:30:30 From Nancy Brunswick To Everyone : Budgets and accountable targets drive POW. Are there alternatives?
09:32:11 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : http://fsweb.wo.fs.fed.us/ir-strategy/
09:32:17 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : relationships
09:32:18 From Robert Trujillo To Everyone : relationships
09:32:19 From James D. Duran To Everyone : relations
09:32:19 From Anthony Madrid To Everyone : Relationships
09:33:06 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : restoration
09:33:07 From Tom Torres To Everyone : restoration
09:33:09 From Robert Trujillo To Everyone : restoration
09:33:09 From Anthony Madrid To Everyone : Restoration
09:33:11 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : restoration
09:33:21 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : Recreation is just a component of use
09:33:26 From Robert Trujillo To Everyone : aspects of recreation are both capacity and mission
09:34:36 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Yes, if resilient landscapes is the mission, sustainable rec would be a bin under that, right?
09:35:46 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : R8's focus areas - restore, protect, respond
09:35:49 From Nancy Brunswick To Everyone : There are components of recreation that is separate from the landscape.
09:36:00 From Robert Trujillo To Everyone : agreed Heather.  And some of the work we have undertaken under the Recreation R seems to me as some capacity work as well
09:36:23 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : That helps, Nancy and Robert
09:37:06 From Nancy Brunswick To Everyone : There is a management of people while providing valued opportunities for them.
09:37:43 From Travis Moseley To Everyone : For instance where does land acquisition fall under 3 r's?
09:38:57 From Rita Skinner To Everyone : Do focus areas have to cover everything we do?
09:39:24 From Wendy Jo Haskins To Everyone : I agree it is a good time to relook at the "3Rs" and tie it to the work that has been done this week. Even Restoration is getting 'over used' an does not capture the total picture of sustain or care or resilient or provide.
09:40:07 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : Providing opportunities is not restoration and doesn't fit under restoration in my mind. So is the mission twofold? restoration and providing opportunities for use and enjoyment?
09:40:40 From Brad Turberville To Everyone : I like respond because that gets to the vaccines and shuttle recovery.
09:40:55 From Brad Turberville To Everyone : As Neil brought up yesterday
09:42:09 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : public
09:42:10 From Elaine Kohrman, USDA Forest Service To Everyone : public and parntres
09:45:05 From Robert Trujillo To Everyone : would add grasslands to that list
09:45:37 From Nancy Brunswick To Everyone : Heather, I agree. There are times when we restore areas that are over used in recreation. However, most of recreation management is providing opportunities. Sometime it is maintaining well used developed recreation facilities (hopefully in an environmentally sensitive manner.) Sometimes it is managing for compatible uses in areas that provide a quality experience.
09:46:16 From Travis Moseley To Everyone : Do focus areas need to be mutually exclusive?
09:47:14 From Robert Trujillo To Everyone : Dale just walked off into the nebula...
09:47:20 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : I like that Nancy - managing for compatible uses in areas that provide a quality experience.  Lots of people recreate but for very different reasons. Not always at a camp ground or developed site.
09:49:55 From Travis Moseley To Everyone : totally agree Adam
09:49:57 From Rita Skinner To Everyone : How can a few focus areas cover ALL that we do. That is what folks complained about with R3s3Rs.  they didn't see themselves. 
09:50:35 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : Rita - isn't that why we're trying to hone in on NOT doing all?
09:50:58 From Adam Mendonca, Gila NF NLOT To Everyone : That's what I'm getting at Laura Jo.
09:51:08 From Adam Mendonca, Gila NF NLOT To Everyone : We are at being everything to everyone at this moment
09:51:14 From Rita Skinner To Everyone : ...and yet we take on delivery of vaccines. 
09:51:51 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : yep.
09:51:58 From Adam Mendonca, Gila NF NLOT To Everyone : OK.  Be patient.  I will continue to try
09:52:41 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : LOL - if we need to just legitimize everything we do, I'm okay with that, as long as we're doing that with clarity and purpose
09:54:34 From Sandy Watts To Everyone : The conversation around getting to OUTCOMES vs OUTPUTS is happening from the top, much of NLC's conversation
09:56:30 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : No wonder I'm tired!
09:56:39 From Rebecca Reynolds To Everyone : Indeed!
09:56:44 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : ditto! :)
09:59:38 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : will we leave this meeting with some sort of textbook around these concepts we can study, digest, and reflect on prior to our next gathering?
09:59:49 From Ericka Luna To Rebecca Reynolds(Privately) : what was the book that grock came from?
10:00:15 From James D. Duran To Everyone : To Roberts comment. This will force us to shift from budget based prioritization towards priority based budgeting as we implement the strategic plan.  Big change in our world.
10:00:46 From Robert Trujillo To Everyone : Exactly Jamess.  Budget should be driven by priorites not priorites being driven by budget
10:01:01 From Rebecca Reynolds To Everyone : State by State; Allocations; Functional Area;
10:01:03 From Dale Deiter - Prescott National Forest To Everyone : well said Travis!
10:01:03 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : our budget changes are slowly starting to support that
10:01:07 From Adam Bromley To Everyone : that whole competing for money for work is a pain
10:02:15 From Robert Trujillo To Everyone : lets go 5FRI
10:02:26 From Heather Provencio To Everyone : 11FRI!
10:02:39 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : LOL!
10:03:34 From Dale Deiter - Prescott National Forest To Everyone : 12FRI
10:03:50 From Laura Jo West To Everyone : sounds good. (have a conflict at 1100)
10:03:50 From Jeremy Kruger To Everyone : Can I get a shake with all those Fries?
10:12:23 From James D. Duran To Rebecca Reynolds(Privately) : Did I miss my invite?